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but the fbi will not go to benghazi. they are in tripoli at our embassy there which has good security. they will not go to benghazi because the security is so awful. even now, 12, 14 days after the attack. so you have got to know that these al qaeda terrorist crazies, they knew that, and they were gunning for our ambassador and the white house was informed of it right away and they are covering that up, jack jacobs. >> it is absolutely true. now it's known the fbi is not only in benghazi, they are not going either. indeed it is even worse than that. there is a large number of witnesses whom they could interview in benghazi who will not go to tripoli to get interviewed by the fbi. they are very much concerned about their names being released, their families being in trouble. if they testify. they are not going anywhere. the fbi is not going to give any information from people who were on the ground and know what happened in benghazi. >> jennifer rubin, back to you. interesting. a bloomberg news poll, mitt romney is now pl
but the fbi will not go to benghazi. they are in tripoli at our embassy there which has good security. they will not go to benghazi because the security is so awful. even now, 12, 14 days after the attack. so you have got to know that these al qaeda terrorist crazies, they knew that, and they were gunning for our ambassador and the white house was informed of it right away and they are covering that up, jack jacobs. >> it is absolutely true. now it's known the fbi is not only in benghazi,...
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we testified about how active he was in eastern libya near benghazi. we knew he was there when there was no terrorist involvement. there was eight committee chairman and subcommittee chairman based on our own sources of information, people in the government, primarily in law enforcement who told us that this is being discussed. we sent a letter to the secretary of state and to the attorney general asking them whether or not there is any discussion at all of the blind sheik being transferred. the answers we got are too cute. the state department says there is no plan at this time and they're not aware of any recent contact from senior officials on this issue. so they're not denying it. all they have to say is that the blind sheik will die in an american jail. no one is saying that. the only reason i can consider it is the president's whole apology approach, if we're nice to them, maybe they won't attack us. >> that gets us into much trouble, this idea of denying it. does this administration understand that there is still a war on terror going out there
we testified about how active he was in eastern libya near benghazi. we knew he was there when there was no terrorist involvement. there was eight committee chairman and subcommittee chairman based on our own sources of information, people in the government, primarily in law enforcement who told us that this is being discussed. we sent a letter to the secretary of state and to the attorney general asking them whether or not there is any discussion at all of the blind sheik being transferred....
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following the killing of ambassador stevens in benghazi. and really, it was very apparent, larry, very early on that this was a pre-planned attack. the libyan president said it was a pre-planned attack. and you have the ambassador of the united nations for the united states coming on and misleading the public. basically we have sent a letter to ambassador rice to explain herself. >> you know, there's a story out today, i didn't know if you saw it, senator, but the story essentially was that the united states government within 24 hours knew it was a pre-planned terrorist attack. your thought on that. because that indicts rice and whomever else was in this cover-up even more. >> that's right. ambassador rice came on the sunday morning programs and said that, in fact, it was a spontaneous reaction of course to the video. and in no way was an expression of hostility toward america. and you have to say killing four american heroes, quite honestly, attacking our consulate, if that's not hostility toward america, i don't know what it is. so, no, i
following the killing of ambassador stevens in benghazi. and really, it was very apparent, larry, very early on that this was a pre-planned attack. the libyan president said it was a pre-planned attack. and you have the ambassador of the united nations for the united states coming on and misleading the public. basically we have sent a letter to ambassador rice to explain herself. >> you know, there's a story out today, i didn't know if you saw it, senator, but the story essentially was...
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people now probably realize this was not something in benghazi that just spontaneously happened. >> i'm curious with the reporting we had, there was this meeting and at the meeting, americans were told that quote the situation is frightening, it scares us and the americans were advised to decrease their presence in benghazi. americans didn't ask for more security and according to the state department, that whole meeting never went up the chain of command. that's pretty frightening there's that lack of coordination or information sharing going on, isn't it? ishat something you fear happening there and elsewhere? >> well, certainly, i can't verify what you've just relayed, but if in fact that happened, certainly, that's very concerning. >> let me ask you a question on this issue of premeditation. i know you're frustrated by that briefs you received today, but why is it that the libyan government says this was premeditated and we hear susan rice, jay carney, from their information, it was not. what do you think would explain that or why would the u.s. government explain things so different
people now probably realize this was not something in benghazi that just spontaneously happened. >> i'm curious with the reporting we had, there was this meeting and at the meeting, americans were told that quote the situation is frightening, it scares us and the americans were advised to decrease their presence in benghazi. americans didn't ask for more security and according to the state department, that whole meeting never went up the chain of command. that's pretty frightening there's...
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the libyans advised the americans to decrease their presence in benghazi. and the libyans say the u.s. embassy officials did not ask for more security at that meeting. and as cnn has reported, sources familiar with chris stevens' thinking say he was worried about the security threats in benghazi and in libya. and he was concerned that he could be a target. in terms of whether the attacks were preplanned, libyan officials have since day one said that attack was preplanned. now, so far the u.s. government response has frankly been confusing. u.n. ambassador susan rice has said the attacks were not preplanned. secretary clinton said she had absolutely no information or reason to believe there is any basis to suggest that the u.s. ambassador was on an al qaeda hit list as a target. the state department said u.s. officials at that post never passed along the warning from the libyan government on militias and security in benghazi. now the administration appears to be backtracking a little bit, at least on the assertion about whether the attack was preplanned or n
the libyans advised the americans to decrease their presence in benghazi. and the libyans say the u.s. embassy officials did not ask for more security at that meeting. and as cnn has reported, sources familiar with chris stevens' thinking say he was worried about the security threats in benghazi and in libya. and he was concerned that he could be a target. in terms of whether the attacks were preplanned, libyan officials have since day one said that attack was preplanned. now, so far the u.s....
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marines have been deployed to benghazi, additional marines, there. the scene of the violence that killed stevens and those three other staffers. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is with us. when the president says we are going to make sure there's justice done, what does that mean? >> reporter: well, let's stwart the marines, ashleigh. the latest information is about 50 marines coming from spain, actually going do go first at least to tripoli. to the capital, to the u.s. embassy in tripoli, libya. they may move around a bit once they get there but they're going to head to tripoli. especially configured to reinforce and up security at the u.s. diplomatic installation there. the president talking about upping security for u.s. diplomats around the world. we'll have to see what comes next. diplomatic security is generally handled three ways. of course, there are u.s. marines that protect many embassies around the world. there is also state department diplomatic security. they typically provide the personal security for ambassadors and top officials.
marines have been deployed to benghazi, additional marines, there. the scene of the violence that killed stevens and those three other staffers. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is with us. when the president says we are going to make sure there's justice done, what does that mean? >> reporter: well, let's stwart the marines, ashleigh. the latest information is about 50 marines coming from spain, actually going do go first at least to tripoli. to the capital, to the u.s. embassy in...
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the attack in benghazi, libya. what more are we learning about the attacks and the measures the state department is trying to take to ensure the safety of its personnel left in benghazi, tripoli, and elsewhere? >> you have a couple of things, anderson. what they're trying to do is make sure the security of the people who are left, and that's only in tripoli, not in benghazi, is assured, so they're sending some marines. it's kind of like a quick reaction for us to the embassy in tripoli to beef that up. they're also notifying troops around the world that potentially they could be used in various ways to ensure the security of american personnel and then, of course, as you mentioned, you've got the destroyers. this would be the destroyers and the drones would be used more, let's say, if the president determined that it was a time to strike against whoever was the group that carried out this attack. >> we'll have a look back on the life of the ambassador. jill and jomana, we'll check in with you. this is a story with
the attack in benghazi, libya. what more are we learning about the attacks and the measures the state department is trying to take to ensure the safety of its personnel left in benghazi, tripoli, and elsewhere? >> you have a couple of things, anderson. what they're trying to do is make sure the security of the people who are left, and that's only in tripoli, not in benghazi, is assured, so they're sending some marines. it's kind of like a quick reaction for us to the embassy in tripoli to...
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are you saying president obama is benghazi? >> no, but i'm saying he's responsible for failure in afghanistan and iraq. iraq is now disintegrating, al qaeda is coming back. we didn't leave a residual force in afghanistan, he overruled his military advisers on several occasions, including 30,000 instead of 40,000 for the surge and accelerated withdrawal dates and now we have a situation where taliban and our enemies know we are leaving, and the whole premise, was to train afghans to turn over these responsibilities to them, and leave. now how can we train and work with these people if so many them are killing americans we can't even train and operate with them? by that policy, it has been an abject failure. >> we'll talk more with senator mccain about domestic issues a bit later in the program. first, bob baer and fran townsend. fran, served as a member of the cia external advisory committee, and last month visited libya with her employer, mccannkancan forbes. he said that there were security concerns. >> we had a long conversat
are you saying president obama is benghazi? >> no, but i'm saying he's responsible for failure in afghanistan and iraq. iraq is now disintegrating, al qaeda is coming back. we didn't leave a residual force in afghanistan, he overruled his military advisers on several occasions, including 30,000 instead of 40,000 for the surge and accelerated withdrawal dates and now we have a situation where taliban and our enemies know we are leaving, and the whole premise, was to train afghans to turn...
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that depends on who you ask. >> what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo, almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in cairo which were prompted of course by the video. >> most people don't bring rocket propelled grenades and heavy weapons to a demonstration. that was an act of terror. for anyone to disagree with that fundamental fact, i think is really ignoring the facts. >> libya's president says foreign extremists planned the attack but in egypt officials say some protesters actually got paid to participate. of course events overseas have changed the dialog when it comes to the election here at home. until now mitt romney's message was centered on the economy and with obama leading in the polls republicans have seized on the embassy crisis to attack the president's leadership. >> all of us are watching events closely. we know who america is dealing with in knees attacks. they are extremists who operate by violence and intimidation and the leasty equivocation or mixed signal only makes t
that depends on who you ask. >> what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo, almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in cairo which were prompted of course by the video. >> most people don't bring rocket propelled grenades and heavy weapons to a demonstration. that was an act of terror. for anyone to disagree with that fundamental fact, i think is really ignoring the facts. >>...
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islamist forces are attacked and somebody in benghazi is dead. the state department says it doesn't have independent confirmation of that death. an eyewitness says that it began with an islamic radical group to protest a group they called anti muslim. the group is on consulate grounds. in cairo, fundamentalist protesters are camped out just outside the american embassy walls, outraged by the same video they stormed the compounds compounds, and replacing them with black flags and islamic indescription on it all embassy staffers left before the protest. a marine contingent on the grounds. and egyptian security forces nearby. cnn is on the ground in cairo and tripoli. and mona is a journalist on the phone from cairo and we have fran townsend, a cnn national security contributor and a member of the external advisory committee and she visited with libya with her employer, and i want to start with ian. you saw hundreds storming the u.s. embassy in cairo. who are these protesters? how widespread is the anger? what is the situation with the americans in
islamist forces are attacked and somebody in benghazi is dead. the state department says it doesn't have independent confirmation of that death. an eyewitness says that it began with an islamic radical group to protest a group they called anti muslim. the group is on consulate grounds. in cairo, fundamentalist protesters are camped out just outside the american embassy walls, outraged by the same video they stormed the compounds compounds, and replacing them with black flags and islamic...
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consulate in benghazi, libya. mr. chairman, thanks very much for coming in. is it true you're calling on the united states ambassador to the united nations susan rice, to resign because of the comments she made on those five sunday talk shows? >> yes, wolf. i believe that this was such a failure of foreign policy message and leadership, such a misstatement of facts at the time and for her to go on all of those shows and in effect the spokesman for the world and be misinforming the american people and our allies and countries around the world, to me somebody has to pay the price for this. we have too much things go wrong and everyone forgets about it the next day. i think we have to send a clear message. on such an issue where an american ambassador was killed where by all the evidence at the time the presumption had to be it was terrorism. i can see why if they wanted to say -- whether it was intentionally or unintentionally and to show the significance of that, i believe she should resign, yes. >> because there is a statement that the spokesperson, the direc
consulate in benghazi, libya. mr. chairman, thanks very much for coming in. is it true you're calling on the united states ambassador to the united nations susan rice, to resign because of the comments she made on those five sunday talk shows? >> yes, wolf. i believe that this was such a failure of foreign policy message and leadership, such a misstatement of facts at the time and for her to go on all of those shows and in effect the spokesman for the world and be misinforming the...
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. >> i want to go to benghazi in libya. you're in tripoli. you've been talking to a source in benghazi where this person working at the consulate was just killed. what's the latest on the situation there? >> reporter: according to an eye witness, he described the situation there as the front line. libyan security forces were engaged in heavy clashes with members of an armed group that is based in eastern libya. he also reported rocket-propelled grenades hitting the consulate building. libyan army troops were deployed. roads to the consulate were blocked off by military vehicles. there are conflicting reports on what the situation is there right now. liblian government officials are telling us that the building has been secured by the libyan military, but according to this eyewitness, members of the group had stormed the consulate building and taken over the building and were celebrating and looting the consulate. there have been condemnations issued, but at the same time, anderson, there are calls on social media sites for more protests in be
. >> i want to go to benghazi in libya. you're in tripoli. you've been talking to a source in benghazi where this person working at the consulate was just killed. what's the latest on the situation there? >> reporter: according to an eye witness, he described the situation there as the front line. libyan security forces were engaged in heavy clashes with members of an armed group that is based in eastern libya. he also reported rocket-propelled grenades hitting the consulate...
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territory in both benghazi and cairo were over. third, it's the responsibility of our political leaders to stand up for what they think are right. and governor romney doesn't think it's right to apologize that we allow people the freedom of speech. he's not condoning how this might use this freedom. but that's in our constitution, that's our values, that's our history. those are the things brave americans have stood for and died for. of course, we have condolences and sympathy for the people that died. they served our country well. >> absolutely. that's the point here instead of focusing on the people that have lost their lives and people in harm's way, we're talking about who should be apologizing for what when most people see that is not the story. thank you for everything you just said, but my initial question was, it couldn't wait? >> well, let me again reiterate. the timeline you suggest was not the same that i just went through. >> i'm not asking about the timeline. it couldn't wait until all of the information -- hang on. le
territory in both benghazi and cairo were over. third, it's the responsibility of our political leaders to stand up for what they think are right. and governor romney doesn't think it's right to apologize that we allow people the freedom of speech. he's not condoning how this might use this freedom. but that's in our constitution, that's our values, that's our history. those are the things brave americans have stood for and died for. of course, we have condolences and sympathy for the people...
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consulate in benghazi, libya, killing four americans including ambassador chris stevens. chief among them, what did the intelligence community know and when did it know it and when and how was the obama administration informed. just in to cnn, the national intelligence director is addressing both issues. let's get right to cnn intelligence correspondent suzanne kelly in washington. >> this has been something of a political football thrown around for a couple of weeks now as people try to nail down what happened, when intelligence officials knew it, and this is the fullest accounting yet we're getting now from the office of the director of national intelligence on exactly what they knew and when. i want to read to you from a statement by shawn turner, the director of public affairs for the odni's office. he said in the immediate aftermath there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier thie day at our embassy in cairo. we provided that initial assessment to executive branch officials and members of congress who use
consulate in benghazi, libya, killing four americans including ambassador chris stevens. chief among them, what did the intelligence community know and when did it know it and when and how was the obama administration informed. just in to cnn, the national intelligence director is addressing both issues. let's get right to cnn intelligence correspondent suzanne kelly in washington. >> this has been something of a political football thrown around for a couple of weeks now as people try to...
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i have been to libya and walked the streets of benghazi myself, and despite what we saw in that horrific incident where some mob was hijacked ultimately by a handful of extremists, the united states is extremely popular in libya and the outpouring of sympathy and support for ambassador stevens and his colleagues from the government and from people as evidence of that, the fact is, candy, that this is a turbulent time. it's a time of dramatic change. it's a change that the united states has backed because we understand that when democracy takes root, when human rights and people's freedom of expression can be manifested, it may lead to turbulence in the short-term, but over the long-term, that is in the interest of the united states. the mobs we've seen on the outside of these embassies are small minority. they're the ones who have largely lost in these emerging democratic processes, and just as the people of these countries are not going to allow their lives to be hijacked by a dictator, they're not going to allow an extremist mob to hijack their future and their freedom, and we're going
i have been to libya and walked the streets of benghazi myself, and despite what we saw in that horrific incident where some mob was hijacked ultimately by a handful of extremists, the united states is extremely popular in libya and the outpouring of sympathy and support for ambassador stevens and his colleagues from the government and from people as evidence of that, the fact is, candy, that this is a turbulent time. it's a time of dramatic change. it's a change that the united states has...
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they're now in custody in benghazi. we'll talk with arwa damon, and, first of all, what do we know about these suspects? >> well, what the government is saying is that they do now believe that these attacks were carried out by extremist groups. they're not going so far as to identify which ones, but they are also saying that they believe that the attacks were preplanned and the intept was to inflict maximum damage on westerns, specifically u.s. interests. the motive of the attack, to drive apart libyans and americans and try to sabotage their relationship, but this attack really goes to underscore just how volatile this country is. these armed groups, and there are many of them, operate with near impunity, especially in benghazi, and all the libyans we have been talking to first and foremost express their anguish over what took place. really want the world, especially americans, to know that these actions are not supported by the majority of the population, but are also demanding of their government to somehow reign in
they're now in custody in benghazi. we'll talk with arwa damon, and, first of all, what do we know about these suspects? >> well, what the government is saying is that they do now believe that these attacks were carried out by extremist groups. they're not going so far as to identify which ones, but they are also saying that they believe that the attacks were preplanned and the intept was to inflict maximum damage on westerns, specifically u.s. interests. the motive of the attack, to...
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and of course, how easily manipulated. >> arwa damon in benghazi, be careful. fran, thank you very much. on wednesday we reported that a source familiar with ambassador stevens' thinking said in the months before his death, ambassador stevens talked about being worried about what he called the never-ending security threats in benghazi. we also reported that the ambassador specifically mentioned the rise in islamic extremism, the growing al qaeda presence in libya and said he was on an al qaeda hit list. the information for that report like all of cnn's reporting was carefully vetted. some of that information was found in a personal journal of ambassador stevens in his handwriting. we came upon the journal through our reporting and notified the family. at their request, we returned that journal to them. we reported what we found newsworthy in the ambassador's writings. a reporter followed up on what we found newsworthy in the ambassador's writings. let us know what you think. we're on facebook, follow me on twitter. i'm tweeting tonight. >>> up next, the attack'
and of course, how easily manipulated. >> arwa damon in benghazi, be careful. fran, thank you very much. on wednesday we reported that a source familiar with ambassador stevens' thinking said in the months before his death, ambassador stevens talked about being worried about what he called the never-ending security threats in benghazi. we also reported that the ambassador specifically mentioned the rise in islamic extremism, the growing al qaeda presence in libya and said he was on an al...
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the attack in benghazi was planned in advance. u.s. marines are now racing to libya to help secure the consulate. president obama is promising justice. joemana karadsheh is in tripoli, libya, for us. this tension that erupted, do you feel it in tripoli? >> reporter: actually, no, don. i was out and about today in tripoli. life seems to be normal. people are hearing about what happened and most of the libyans that i have spoken to are outraged by what happened. they are condemning this attack saying it's not representative of the libyan people and their sentiments towards the united states and towards the west. they are saying that they are grateful for the role that the united states plays. many are familiar with ambassador stevens and the role e he played. people are really saddened by this attack. they are really shocked. it's also seen as a wake up call for the government here for authorities that have really not taken a strong stance. they have not taken action against these groups that we know are operating in eastern libya and th
the attack in benghazi was planned in advance. u.s. marines are now racing to libya to help secure the consulate. president obama is promising justice. joemana karadsheh is in tripoli, libya, for us. this tension that erupted, do you feel it in tripoli? >> reporter: actually, no, don. i was out and about today in tripoli. life seems to be normal. people are hearing about what happened and most of the libyans that i have spoken to are outraged by what happened. they are condemning this...
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at the benghazi. this after the united states, the nato allies, many in the arab world and moderate arab states worked together to get rid of gadhafi in libya and to see the attack on a mission in benghazi, that's way beyond politics, carol. this is a huge national security issue that's developed and goes to underscore that in these kinds of presidential debates when everyone is focusing on domestic issues, economic issues, the jobs related issues and domestic social issues that a national security crisis and this is a crisis right now can explode. you got what's going on in ben zba ga zi in libya right now. you got what's going on in cairo. american flags are burned. and it's a dangerous situation. this is one of the largest diplomatic missions that the united states has in the world. a lot of americans serving at the u.s. embassy in cairo. that's where they distribute more than $1.5 billion a year in u.s. economic and military assistance. mostly military assistance to egypt. but all that very much u
at the benghazi. this after the united states, the nato allies, many in the arab world and moderate arab states worked together to get rid of gadhafi in libya and to see the attack on a mission in benghazi, that's way beyond politics, carol. this is a huge national security issue that's developed and goes to underscore that in these kinds of presidential debates when everyone is focusing on domestic issues, economic issues, the jobs related issues and domestic social issues that a national...
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consulate in benghazi and opened fire. the violence in protest to that amateur online film produced in the u.s. that offended millions and millions of muslims. first, we want to bring in elise labott. she has known ambassador stevens for ten years. she works at the state department for us. elise this is a tragedy for the entire diplomatic community this morning. >> yes, yes. john, this is a terrible day for the state department. everyone is going to be in mourning today. it's not just the fact that chris stevens was such a popular figure of the state department. really, one of the cream of the crop of the u.s. foreign service. but it's been many years since someone of this level has been killed in an attack like this. so i think there's going to be a lot of shockwaves through the state department. after all the u.s. has done for the libyans. using force to get rid of moammar gadhafi, to help libya stand up as it moved towards elections, as it tries to start anew. i think there's going to be a lot of gut checking right now
consulate in benghazi and opened fire. the violence in protest to that amateur online film produced in the u.s. that offended millions and millions of muslims. first, we want to bring in elise labott. she has known ambassador stevens for ten years. she works at the state department for us. elise this is a tragedy for the entire diplomatic community this morning. >> yes, yes. john, this is a terrible day for the state department. everyone is going to be in mourning today. it's not just the...
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arwa damon has more now from benghazi. >> reporter: the revolution began in benghazi and now it's starting once again in benghazi to evict these extremist militias. he was just telling us is that the people inside, they believe must have heard that the pro-democracy demonstrators were coming because by the time they arrived, they found no one. they were able to go in and take control. we are seeing the pro-democracy people of benghazi literally reclaiming their city from the extremist militias. there was an initial sense of euphoria, people saying that this is the real libya, cleansed of extremists by its own people. but the situation quickly turned sinister. >> we have five left. >> be careful. >> bottom of the road there. >> there. >> over on the left-hand side. >> reporter: there is gun fire. this is the second location. just on the other side of this wall is the second location that we are told is being struck tonight, but contrary to what we witnessed at the first place, here there seems to be something of a gun battle going on. we are hearing sporadic gun fire as well as other small
arwa damon has more now from benghazi. >> reporter: the revolution began in benghazi and now it's starting once again in benghazi to evict these extremist militias. he was just telling us is that the people inside, they believe must have heard that the pro-democracy demonstrators were coming because by the time they arrived, they found no one. they were able to go in and take control. we are seeing the pro-democracy people of benghazi literally reclaiming their city from the extremist...
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they've never made it to benghazi. >> they haven't been on the ground in benghazi? >> they have not. in fact, it was taking so long to get permission to get into tripoli, the fbi deployed closer. they have conducted interviews of those in labia at the time of the attack, but not been able to get -- they've gotten as far as tripoli, but never gotten to benghazi. they made a request that the crime scene be security. as we know from arwa damon's reporting and other public reporting, the state department, we don't know whether the state department put that request to the libyans and whether it was denied. what we know for sure is the crime scene was never secured. the senior law enforcement official i spoke to said, if we get there now, it's not clear it will be of any use to us. the third and really critical and astonishing point to me that they made was, look, one of the things we have to do is question the individuals the libyans have in custody to get to the bottom of this, to understand what they're learning. in fact, they made request through the state department.
they've never made it to benghazi. >> they haven't been on the ground in benghazi? >> they have not. in fact, it was taking so long to get permission to get into tripoli, the fbi deployed closer. they have conducted interviews of those in labia at the time of the attack, but not been able to get -- they've gotten as far as tripoli, but never gotten to benghazi. they made a request that the crime scene be security. as we know from arwa damon's reporting and other public reporting,...
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consulate in benghazi, libya, it was an organized terrorist assault. four americans were killed including ambassador chris stevens. it wasn't just a violence end to a spontaneous protest over an anti-muslim film. >> u.s. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice was one of the administration officials who said it was not a terrorist attack and that has led congressman peter king to call for her resignation. here's what he told our wolf blitzer. >> to rule out terrorism, say it was not terrorism at that time was a terrible mistake to make whether it was intentionally or unintentionally. to show the significance of that, i believe she should resign, yes. >> the white house is standing by rice saying everything she said in that interview was cleared by interagency groups. >>> two people are hospitals after a shooting in minneapolis later this week. the shooter was laid off hours before the incident and then returned with a gun and shot and killed five co-workers before committing suicide. his family said he had a history of mental illness. among the de
consulate in benghazi, libya, it was an organized terrorist assault. four americans were killed including ambassador chris stevens. it wasn't just a violence end to a spontaneous protest over an anti-muslim film. >> u.s. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice was one of the administration officials who said it was not a terrorist attack and that has led congressman peter king to call for her resignation. here's what he told our wolf blitzer. >> to rule out terrorism, say it...
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>> given the circumstances in benghazi, wolf, probably not. probably because there had been similar attacks on the british ambassador's convoy, there had been an infiltration of islamic extremists from the southern part of libya, there had been a series of attacks near the airport. so there's no doubt that chris was well aware at the time that benghazi was less than a secure city. >> what do you think caused this attack? was it simply that anti-islamic film or is there something much bigger here that explains this hatred of the united states? >> well, with respect to libya, i don't think it has to do with hatred of the united states. the islam terrorist groups, could have been gadhafi dead enders who have been plotting to destabilize the government. across the rest of the region, there's clearly a permeation of anti-and the struggle between the muslim brotherhood. >> egypt is much more important. i assume you like a lot of others are deeply disappointed that the newly elected president was so shy at least at the beginning in condemning the att
>> given the circumstances in benghazi, wolf, probably not. probably because there had been similar attacks on the british ambassador's convoy, there had been an infiltration of islamic extremists from the southern part of libya, there had been a series of attacks near the airport. so there's no doubt that chris was well aware at the time that benghazi was less than a secure city. >> what do you think caused this attack? was it simply that anti-islamic film or is there something...
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it's a mission they call it a consulate, officially it's our mission in benghazi. and last week it was deadly there. protesters again back on the streets today, as well, and our cnn's arwa damon is live on the telephone in benghazi where she's been investigating this story. so we're hearing protests yet again on the street, all of this as you're able to interview the libyan program, arwa. for starters, why is this story where you are so much different than the story here, according to the state department? >> well, there has been quite a bit of contradiction when it comes to accounts of exactly what may have transpired on september 11th that led, of course, to the horrific events at the u.s. consulate. according to the prime minister, who we spoke to, so far they have seen eight individuals who are directly related to this attack. some of them are are being described as printer members of a known splinter group although the government is saying that the group itself at this point was not involved as an organization in the attacks itself. he said that there were no
it's a mission they call it a consulate, officially it's our mission in benghazi. and last week it was deadly there. protesters again back on the streets today, as well, and our cnn's arwa damon is live on the telephone in benghazi where she's been investigating this story. so we're hearing protests yet again on the street, all of this as you're able to interview the libyan program, arwa. for starters, why is this story where you are so much different than the story here, according to the state...
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but he suggested to me at some point to go to benghazi, to see for myself. so i think he understood very well the increasing concern about extremism, but he never did mention to me anything about his being on an al qaeda hit list. >> and as far as security goes there are so many situations that can seem so worrisome and not just in libya. fran, thank you. appreciate your insight this morning. thanks so much. >>> the death of ambassador stevens, just the beginning, in fact, politically speaking. the white house's top brass now about to brief congress on the volatile and deadly situation that's unfolding right now. we've had violent clashes erupting from north africa throughout the middle east and southeast asia. this is a glimpse of the hot spots on your map in front of you. of these explosive attacks, there have also been suicide bombings. anti-american sentiments have been unleashed mostly because of that anti-islam film, if you want to call it that, movie, piece of tape, youtube clip. members of the house and senate are now about to get the briefing from s
but he suggested to me at some point to go to benghazi, to see for myself. so i think he understood very well the increasing concern about extremism, but he never did mention to me anything about his being on an al qaeda hit list. >> and as far as security goes there are so many situations that can seem so worrisome and not just in libya. fran, thank you. appreciate your insight this morning. thanks so much. >>> the death of ambassador stevens, just the beginning, in fact,...
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if they are as wrong in their security estimate of iran as they were about the consulate in benghazi, we are in serious trouble. >> let me turn you back to the economy since it remains the issue number one. when you look at -- i'm sorry, a "the new york times" cbs poll about the probable electorate. the question, which candidate would do a better job handling the economy and unemployment. president obama, 47, mitt romney, 46. your candidate has lost the edge when it comes to the economy. if the economy is as bad as republicans have told us it is, what is holding mitt romney back here? from your description of the economy, others' description of the economy, this should be a president that doesn't have a chance, and yet he is beating mitt romney. >> there's no such thing as incumbent president doesn't have a chance. having the presidency is an enormous advantage. the president used it well. they have done a good job, unfair, raising questions about mitt romney and paul ryan, and romney-ryan has to overcome that. if you look at the fundamentals, 43 months of unemployment of 8 plus. no p
if they are as wrong in their security estimate of iran as they were about the consulate in benghazi, we are in serious trouble. >> let me turn you back to the economy since it remains the issue number one. when you look at -- i'm sorry, a "the new york times" cbs poll about the probable electorate. the question, which candidate would do a better job handling the economy and unemployment. president obama, 47, mitt romney, 46. your candidate has lost the edge when it comes to the...
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ambassador and four other than americans are in custody in benghazi. they're being indirectly linked to the rocket attack on the u.s. consulate. i want to talk to jimana in tripoli, the libyan capital west of benghazi. first of all, what do we know about those arrested? >> very little, suzanne, so far. what we understand from libyan officials is that at least one of those arrested is a -- they were detained in benghazi yesterday. we know they are being interrogated to see what role they had in the attack, but according to one sore libyan official today, they may not have been directly linked to the attack. they may have ties to the extremist organization that carried out the attack. they have not been charged yet. they are detained and being intrargted acorked to libyan officials, so we should be knowing about this as information is released by the libyan government. >> do we believe these people are really responsible for what took place, or does this look like this is more kind of a show? >> well, quite frankly, suzanne, the libyan government here is
ambassador and four other than americans are in custody in benghazi. they're being indirectly linked to the rocket attack on the u.s. consulate. i want to talk to jimana in tripoli, the libyan capital west of benghazi. first of all, what do we know about those arrested? >> very little, suzanne, so far. what we understand from libyan officials is that at least one of those arrested is a -- they were detained in benghazi yesterday. we know they are being interrogated to see what role they...
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put benghazi on notice that he's on his way to benghazi to hunt the people of benghazi to hunt them down, house by house, street by street, alleyway by alleyway, as he put it. and then this fine -- devoted his life to this region being gunned downindeed. we don't know who is responsible. we've heard various speculation. the chairman of the house intelligence committee thinks it has some fingerprints of al qaeda or at least al qaeda-inspired affiliate operation. what do you think? >> you know, wolf, i think we have to remember that al qaeda had deep presence, actually, in libya, and we go back to the infiltration of al qaeda into iraq a while ago. a few years ago. what we learned when the americans got the documents, the computer records of the jihadists, they captured records and what they learned is the largest group of jihadists came from saudi arabia. the second largest group came from libya. so there has always been an al qaeda presence in libya. there was a presence that gadhafi occasionally used in the fashion of the dictators of the arab world. they could wink at terrorism wh
put benghazi on notice that he's on his way to benghazi to hunt the people of benghazi to hunt them down, house by house, street by street, alleyway by alleyway, as he put it. and then this fine -- devoted his life to this region being gunned downindeed. we don't know who is responsible. we've heard various speculation. the chairman of the house intelligence committee thinks it has some fingerprints of al qaeda or at least al qaeda-inspired affiliate operation. what do you think? >> you...
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we're learning more about the attacks in benghazi that resulted in the death of chris stevens and three of his colleagues. sean smith was online the night of the attack. he sent messages one of them to a friend online. while protesters were gathering outside of the consulate and he said this. assuming we don't die tonight. we saw one of our "unquote police that guard the compound taking pictures. cnn armand damon joins us now. you had a chance to walk through that compound. give me a feel for what you've seen, what you witnessed in the aftermath of these murders. >> reporter: it really is quite chilling to be standing inside that compound, even with the bare information we have trying to piece together the events that transpired there on tuesday. the buildings are gutted. they have been burned. there's black soot across many of the walls. there's debris littering the floors. there's some -- we spoke with a security guard, a libyan security guard and even though he said the security guard is only armed with a radio who was manning one of the main entrances into the consulate compound and
we're learning more about the attacks in benghazi that resulted in the death of chris stevens and three of his colleagues. sean smith was online the night of the attack. he sent messages one of them to a friend online. while protesters were gathering outside of the consulate and he said this. assuming we don't die tonight. we saw one of our "unquote police that guard the compound taking pictures. cnn armand damon joins us now. you had a chance to walk through that compound. give me a feel...
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consulate in benghazi, libya. arwa damon is where it all started in benghazi. what's the latest, arwa? what's going on? >> reporter: well, at this point in time the situation in benghazi is incredibly tense. everyone who we've been speaking to really expressing their outrage, their horror at what took place. but also demanding that the libyan government take concrete action to try to bring about an end to these armed militias effectively that operate with pretty much complete and total immunity. we were touring the site of the consulate earlier today. and there we saw the country's president, the head of the national council -- congress, rather. he was saying at this point in time the government doesn't necessarily have the capabilities to reign these individuals or militias in. and this is of course of growing concern for the population and all the international observers. if the current libyan government is not capable of taking these weapons off the streets, of controlling these extremist groups, one can only imagine what the future of this country is going
consulate in benghazi, libya. arwa damon is where it all started in benghazi. what's the latest, arwa? what's going on? >> reporter: well, at this point in time the situation in benghazi is incredibly tense. everyone who we've been speaking to really expressing their outrage, their horror at what took place. but also demanding that the libyan government take concrete action to try to bring about an end to these armed militias effectively that operate with pretty much complete and total...
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. >>> and new developments in the benghazi, libya, attack. four people now under arrest, all four victims now identified. good morning. welcome to "early start," i'm christine romans. >> and i'm brianna keilar. zoraida zam lynn and john berman are off. it's 5:00 in the east, so let's get started. >>> protests erupting overnight and with friday prayers ending in just one hour, u.s. embassies around the world are bracing for more. overnight, the anger and defiance that started wednesday over an anti-muslim movie made in the u.s. spreading to 11 countries from egypt to as far west as morocco and as far east as india. the worst of it in yemen, where at least five yemenis were killed as hundreds of protesters stormed the american embassy in sanaa. cars and bottles smashed, water cannons brought out to control this crowd. in egypt, where the violence first erupted three days ago, more clashes. protesters setting fires and the egyptian military deploying tanks to keep things calm. and in libya, news overnight that four people arrested in the murder
. >>> and new developments in the benghazi, libya, attack. four people now under arrest, all four victims now identified. good morning. welcome to "early start," i'm christine romans. >> and i'm brianna keilar. zoraida zam lynn and john berman are off. it's 5:00 in the east, so let's get started. >>> protests erupting overnight and with friday prayers ending in just one hour, u.s. embassies around the world are bracing for more. overnight, the anger and...
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consulate in benghazi libya. and fbi agents have not even stepped foot on to the crime scene or even in the city of benghazi. that rather surprising information coming from top law enforcement officials. what's more, the crime scene has not been secured. here is cnn national security analyst fran townsend. >> what we found out today from senior law enforcement officials is that while the fbi has finally made to tripoli, they never made to benghazi. in fact it was it taking so long to get permission to get into tripoli, the fbi deployed their person flel to a location in the region so they would be closer. they have conducted interviews of the state department and u.s. government personnel in labor i can't libya at the time of the attack. but they've never gotten to benghazi. they made a request that the crime scene be secured. as we know from public reporting, the state department -- we didn't know whether or not the state department put that request to the libyans and whether it was denied. what we know for hsur
consulate in benghazi libya. and fbi agents have not even stepped foot on to the crime scene or even in the city of benghazi. that rather surprising information coming from top law enforcement officials. what's more, the crime scene has not been secured. here is cnn national security analyst fran townsend. >> what we found out today from senior law enforcement officials is that while the fbi has finally made to tripoli, they never made to benghazi. in fact it was it taking so long to get...
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, the consulate, in benghazi, said it was an outrage, that the people were killed in that embassy, that consulate, but instead, the u.s. reminded them, no, we want you to protect our embassy and our interests inside egypt. and you saw morrissey did a 180 degree turn. the number two man in the muslim brotherhood wrote a very moderate letter to the new york times. >> is this betrayal? i heard people say, this is betrayal, with so much help, why doesn't morrissey speak strongly, more strongly against this? they feel -- many americans feel betrayed by this. >> i think it is an experience. you have to rack it up to that. you see him coming to his senses and realizing this say relationship that not only do we need in terms of financial terms, in diplomatic terms, but we want it. we want to be closer to the united states to develop a new relationship with him. i think that is reflected in the turn-about you've seen. you've got to give him a little bit of time. there was never any opposition. they never had any opportunity to hold a position of power. quite frankly, they're so inexperienced tha
, the consulate, in benghazi, said it was an outrage, that the people were killed in that embassy, that consulate, but instead, the u.s. reminded them, no, we want you to protect our embassy and our interests inside egypt. and you saw morrissey did a 180 degree turn. the number two man in the muslim brotherhood wrote a very moderate letter to the new york times. >> is this betrayal? i heard people say, this is betrayal, with so much help, why doesn't morrissey speak strongly, more...
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in benghazi today, wolf. both of whom and the confrontation we saw between the two very much going to one of the core issues that the government here has to deal with. the significantly larger demonstration was called save benghazi carried out by individuals who do believe in democracy who were demanding an end to the armed militias wanting to see a formation of a truly nationalistic army and police force. also demanding an end to the impunity with which these militias can operate wanting the government to pass legislation that would in fact criminalize them. and going even further to say they were demonstrating for freedom of speech. i met one woman at this demonstration who had had two of her sons killed during the revolution. and she said they paid such a high price in blood that libya absolutely had to change. now, these demonstrators, these pro-democracy demonstrators moved towards the square in benghazi that had already been occupied by -- and its supporters. they said they were demonstrating against th
in benghazi today, wolf. both of whom and the confrontation we saw between the two very much going to one of the core issues that the government here has to deal with. the significantly larger demonstration was called save benghazi carried out by individuals who do believe in democracy who were demanding an end to the armed militias wanting to see a formation of a truly nationalistic army and police force. also demanding an end to the impunity with which these militias can operate wanting the...
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>> we are hearing the deputy interior minister of the eastern region where the city of benghazi is saying that a number of individuals suspected of involvement in the attack on the consulate in the city of benghazi have been detained. and they are being interrogated right now. an investigation is ongoing with these individuals. and he says this will reveal either their development or innocence in this attack. >> all right. jomana karadsheh, thank you railroad much. hopefully it will find out if they're victims of a plot or outrage shown as american outposts through the world. demonstrators in at least ten countries, building against america over what one reported american created, a movie that mocks the prophet muhammad as a child molester and a womanizer and in iran, chants of death to america. in yemen, several thousand people demonstrated, some of them breached a wall of the u.s. embassy. 24 security officers were hurt along with at least 3 protesters who were injured. in egypt, you're looking at live pictures now. state television reports more than 200 people were hurt in anti-u.s. pr
>> we are hearing the deputy interior minister of the eastern region where the city of benghazi is saying that a number of individuals suspected of involvement in the attack on the consulate in the city of benghazi have been detained. and they are being interrogated right now. an investigation is ongoing with these individuals. and he says this will reveal either their development or innocence in this attack. >> all right. jomana karadsheh, thank you railroad much. hopefully it will...
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in benghazi, the city where the u.s. diplomat chris stevens was killed, there were peaceful protests, protesters holding messages of apology and thought for the united states. some signs read thugs and killers don't represent benghazi and rest in peace, chris stevens. >>> the film that's sparking so many violent protests around the world. we make a simple thing. a thing that helps you buy other things. but plenty of companies do that. so we make something else. we help make life a little easier, more convenient, more rewarding, more entertaining. year after year. it's the reason why we don't have customers. we have members. american express. welcome in. >>> that youtube film that started violent middle east protests apparently starred actors who had absolutely no idea they were acting in an anti-islamic movie. as miguel marquez reports, one of those actors is stunned and quite emotional about it all. >> she responded to a generic casting call for what was billed as an action adventure film, low-budget affair called, at t
in benghazi, the city where the u.s. diplomat chris stevens was killed, there were peaceful protests, protesters holding messages of apology and thought for the united states. some signs read thugs and killers don't represent benghazi and rest in peace, chris stevens. >>> the film that's sparking so many violent protests around the world. we make a simple thing. a thing that helps you buy other things. but plenty of companies do that. so we make something else. we help make life a...
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consulate in benghazi. we're going to get you the latest through the region. >> and perhaps on a lighter note, another clothes-off controversy for the royals. yes, i just said that. this time the duchess kate caught with her top off and the palace ready to take action. details when "starting point" is back in a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 70% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. with investment information, risks, fees and expenses capella university understands back from rough economic times. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capabl
consulate in benghazi. we're going to get you the latest through the region. >> and perhaps on a lighter note, another clothes-off controversy for the royals. yes, i just said that. this time the duchess kate caught with her top off and the palace ready to take action. details when "starting point" is back in a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in...
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consulate in benghazi, we know less than we were so sure of the day it happened. at the time u.s. officials indicated there was no intelligence indicating a specific threat that may be technically true, but there is word now that days before the attack there were warnings about insufficient security in benghazi and the potential for an attack. it leads to questions. >> i don't know how you argue we weren't caught flat-footed. they stormed our consulate, were successful in that and killed our ambassador and three other employees. that is being caught flat-footed. >> as well, the administration's early line was that the attack was not premeditated. that it was the spontaneous work of a handful of people who used a broader protest over an anti-muslim movie as cover to murder the americans. it turns out maybe there wasn't even a broader protest. we are still unsure. >> what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack and we will not rest until we have tracked down and brought to justice the terrorists who murdered four americans. >> so far libyan authorities have detained eight people
consulate in benghazi, we know less than we were so sure of the day it happened. at the time u.s. officials indicated there was no intelligence indicating a specific threat that may be technically true, but there is word now that days before the attack there were warnings about insufficient security in benghazi and the potential for an attack. it leads to questions. >> i don't know how you argue we weren't caught flat-footed. they stormed our consulate, were successful in that and killed...
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consulate in benghazi some nine days ago. the director of the national counter terrorism center confirms that terrorists killed these four americans. among them, u.s. ambassador to libya chris stevens. now, an unnamed source tells cnn that stevens feared he was on an al qaeda hit list. that source went on to tell us that stevens worried about what he called never ending security threats in benghazi and specifically spoke about the growing presence of al qaeda in libya. but the u.s. counter terrorism director says it's still not clear if they seized on the opportunity of the furious protesters of the anti-muslim video opened up. the ranking member of the senate's homeland security committee says whatever the case, security should have been much, much tighter for the ambassador. >> i'm just stunned and appalled that there wasn't better security for all of the american personnel at that consulate, given the high threat environment. >> senior congressional correspondent data bash is there for me in the capitol. we know, dana, tha
consulate in benghazi some nine days ago. the director of the national counter terrorism center confirms that terrorists killed these four americans. among them, u.s. ambassador to libya chris stevens. now, an unnamed source tells cnn that stevens feared he was on an al qaeda hit list. that source went on to tell us that stevens worried about what he called never ending security threats in benghazi and specifically spoke about the growing presence of al qaeda in libya. but the u.s. counter...
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>> do you believe what took place in benghazi could have been anticipated? there are reports that there were, you know, security concerns that ambassador stevens had, that there was some activity of camps of extremists happening nearby. do you believe that the u.s. could have anticipated that the u.s. consulate would be a target? >> you know, the only responsible answer i can give you is that i don't know, and i'm not sure that anyone yet knows. it was a very volatile situation into which an extremist murderous group interjected itself, but what was the relationship between that group and the larger crowd that was gathered, i don't know. >> is it your concern that's what's bubbling up around the globe in terms of various forms of unrest that this might be a prelude to something even bigger than what we've seen already? is that your concern? >> we have have to bare in mind that we have to preserve our freedom of speech in this country. we should not be tolerant of what could be a conspiracy. a conspiracy involving multiple people with phony names or hidden id
>> do you believe what took place in benghazi could have been anticipated? there are reports that there were, you know, security concerns that ambassador stevens had, that there was some activity of camps of extremists happening nearby. do you believe that the u.s. could have anticipated that the u.s. consulate would be a target? >> you know, the only responsible answer i can give you is that i don't know, and i'm not sure that anyone yet knows. it was a very volatile situation into...
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intelligence officials still in benghazi. but you've got an intelligence service in this new government -- you don't really have a fully productive partner. those two things together do make it very challenging. but we have to be clear. there will continue to be network of informants, surveillance, whether it's technical signals intelligence. they will continue to collect against the intelligence requirements. they just have -- they're going to be certainly more challenged. >> fran, i have more questions but i want to get to this right now. a war between israel and iran, is it imminent? cnn's piers morgan put that question directly to one man who could determine whether current tension over iran's nuclear program escalates into something far more serious and deadly. listen to this part of piers' interview with the iranian president, mahmoud ahmadinejad. >> if israel does launch a strike against your country, what will your response be? >> translator: the response of iran is quite clear. i don't even need to explain that. any
intelligence officials still in benghazi. but you've got an intelligence service in this new government -- you don't really have a fully productive partner. those two things together do make it very challenging. but we have to be clear. there will continue to be network of informants, surveillance, whether it's technical signals intelligence. they will continue to collect against the intelligence requirements. they just have -- they're going to be certainly more challenged. >> fran, i...
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consulate in benghazi. let's go live to our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence getting new details on what's going on. chris, what are you learning? >> yeah, wolf, just in the past few hours libya's own prime minister told cnn's own christiane amonopore have arrested one man. he is currently being interrogated. and libyan authorities say they have several others under surveillance and more arrests may be on the way. meantime, u.s. intelligence officials say they are digging deeper and getting more information about who may have been behind this attack. at this point they say it does not appear to be a core al qaeda group, wolf. >> what does that mean? a core al chi da affiliate groups. what does that mean, a core al qaeda group? >> they think it's very possible that this could have been an al qaeda-inspired group. some group that is not directly affiliated with the hierarchy of al qaeda but does support the aims and ideals of al qaeda. >> and what about the u.s. warships, chris, that are heading toward l
consulate in benghazi. let's go live to our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence getting new details on what's going on. chris, what are you learning? >> yeah, wolf, just in the past few hours libya's own prime minister told cnn's own christiane amonopore have arrested one man. he is currently being interrogated. and libyan authorities say they have several others under surveillance and more arrests may be on the way. meantime, u.s. intelligence officials say they are digging deeper and...
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was there enough protection in benghazi. you heard during dana's report, there is a split on capitol hill as members of congress are leaving these briefings. buck mckeon saying it is obvious that the ama basder did not have adequate security and adam smith saying something very different. what is your take on this at this point then? >> well, look, it's easy to say, we had the tragedy of the ama basder's death. it's easy to say he didn't have adequate security. the right question to be asking that nobody seems to give us a clear answer on is, given what was the intelligence you had prior to september 11th about the threat in benghazi? what we know from all of our sources is that the threat environment was increasingly dangerous and what did the government know in the classified arena? did they have and how specific was the intelligence about that threat and then to judge what his security was, was it adequate against that threat? i think it's fair to say that this looked like a very sufficie sophisticated arm aed that killed
was there enough protection in benghazi. you heard during dana's report, there is a split on capitol hill as members of congress are leaving these briefings. buck mckeon saying it is obvious that the ama basder did not have adequate security and adam smith saying something very different. what is your take on this at this point then? >> well, look, it's easy to say, we had the tragedy of the ama basder's death. it's easy to say he didn't have adequate security. the right question to be...